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	<title>Jason R Briggs &#187; trolls</title>
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		<title>Flaws?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Last September, I posted about a somewhat odd exchange between myself and the developer of a competing shopping cart plugin, over a troll whom, in the end, wound up attacking both plugins. Since then, I&#8217;ve come across a few negative comments about YAK on various forums &#8212; interestingly, in none of these cases has the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last September, I <a href="http://www.briggs.net.nz/log/2008/09/21/on-trolls-and-other-nasty-beasts/">posted</a> about a somewhat odd exchange between myself and the developer of a competing shopping cart plugin, over a troll whom, in the end, wound up attacking both plugins.</p>
<p>Since then, I&#8217;ve come across a few negative comments about YAK on various forums &#8212; interestingly, in none of these cases has the poster actually contacted me.  All too similar to the original troll.</p>
<p>The usual process, when there&#8217;s been a real issue with YAK, is that someone lets me know, I fix said issue (or otherwise try to resolve), and release a new version.  So far, I&#8217;ve only been notified about one legitimate hole in the code (quickly fixed), and (at least, as far as I can recall) haven&#8217;t left any major flaws outstanding for great lengths of time.  So I haven&#8217;t been enormously worried about the odd malcontent.</p>
<p>That said, I occasionally google to see what&#8217;s being said out there, and came across the following gem (from the aforementioned plugin developer).</p>
<p><em>If you want to throw up an image with a price in a page or a post then by all means use YAK. But if you want the real deal then [competing-plugin] is built on years of e-Commerce knowledge and has plenty of important features for people wanting to SELL Online &#8211; such as the ability to interface with many payment gateways, the ability to interface with shipping companies, and much much more</em></p>
<p>(Note: I&#8217;ve removed the name of the plugin because I&#8217;ve thus far tried to avoid actually naming the individual involved).</p>
<p>This was posted sometime after May last year, but I do feel the need to make a couple of comments, even though it&#8217;s almost a year old:</p>
<p>1.  What&#8217;s your definition of important feature?  Get a group of users together, and I guarantee they won&#8217;t come up with the same list.<br />
2.  YAK now supports a number of payment gateways (PayPal standard, PayPal Pro, Authorize.net and basic Google Checkout integration)<br />
3.  Okay, it doesn&#8217;t directly interface with shipping companies &#8212; but the shipping calculation is relatively flexible, and I&#8217;m always open to suggestions.<br />
4.  YAK as a project has now been actively (if intermittently) developed for 3 years.  So I&#8217;d say it also fulfills the assertion: &#8220;built on years of e-Commerce knowledge&#8221;.  <img src='http://www.briggs.net.nz/log/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':-P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>UPDATE: here&#8217;s another <a href="http://www.davidbisset.com/2008/01/28/wordpress-ecommerce-shopping-cart-plugin/#comment-906">interesting comment</a> (by someone called <a href="http://mccormicky.com/">Mccormicky</a>) which I came across after posting this:</p>
<p><em>Yak cart is another you might consider if you don’t mind repairing tables in mysql. I did it and I am no expert.<br />
Yak is not that supported either-there isn’t even an onsite tutorial for setting it up and the readme contains nothing about where to put the hooks! I was amazed.</em></p>
<p>It looks like fairly obvious trolling, given that (at the time it was posted) there was certainly a basic tutorial for YAK setup, and at the time I don&#8217;t recall being contacted about any &#8220;table repair&#8221; problems.  Weird.</p>
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